i almost forgot...there is one title that i am interested in reading: Loving Homosexuals as Jesus Would. i have ordered a galley copy of this work, so that I can read it next week and interview the author the week following. once the interview is complete, i'll post it.
have there been any christian treatments of the homosexuality issue that you have found helpful? if so, let me know.
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how bout the old fashioned christian treatment of beat the hell out them and burn them at the steak. Just kidding, I have no real brain on this issue.
By the way, I am REALLY glad that you have a blog now...it's about time. I have considered publicizing your blog on mine, but I am afraid of the resulting onslaught of comments you might receive from some close-minded individuals (or people who don't know you well enough to appreciate your unique perspectives). They might not see it as much a blessing as I do. I just think your thoughts are too good not to share, so, if people don't read your thoughts, they'll get them through my poorly regurgitated attempts. Either way, they'll either be pissed or challenged. Does this make sense?
makes sense to me. if you want to post my blog feel free. i am pretty sure i can handle any shit that they throw my way.
btw--it's always good talking to you. i really miss your presence out here.
kellie says hello.
jeff
Hey we need to ban homosexuality because then I would not get hit on by the gay men at work!
For the record James Dobsin has talked about abusive relationships, in fact it was on the radio the other day. But you are correct, we do miss some obvious issues that need to be discussed.
My question for the homosexuality stuff is how should we treat married gay people, that is, do we celibrate with them for being in a committed relationship, or make it a hush hush we accept you as a sinner but that is not acceptable, or stand out with signs. I am starting to believe we should just let it happen. I mean it is not like most habbits where your body drives you. Your attracted to the same sex, how hard would that be to quit. It would be like telling me I should like guys, no freakin way. I saw an interview with a queer and they said "I wish I wasn't gay, life would be easier." or another "There is just something about f****** a guy in the a** and the passion between two men." I am waiting for a proper Christian responce, one that is fair and thought out. Until then and maybe our only best bet is listening to the spirit and waiting. Sorry for all the mis-spellings.
I think one reason homosexuality is more spoken about is because it is more "in your face". Most gay people are proud of being gay (and they don't go to church). And a lot of christians like to let people know when they are doing something "evil". But abuse is not something people usually like to brag about. It's behind doors. So it's easier to ignore because no one in the church would ever do that(sarcasm).
Also, I think the church forget that queers are people, and not some big demon they are up against. If people in the church would actually try to build friendships with people who are gay, their harsh views of them will change.
But on a different note and putting the "moral" issue aside, gay marriages would not work with the way our government works. The reason govt is concerned with marriages is because marriage plays a big part in the stucture of our society and in reproduction (which keeps our country growing). And people might argue that homosexuals can be parents, there have been many studies that have shown that the kids that turn out the best (the ones that benefit society the most) are the ones that have both a mom and a dad raising them. Studies on divorce has shown the emotional problems it has caused for the children. I wonder what studies on homosexuals' kids will show.
adam,
thanks for your thoughts. you are quite right about dobson, he has addressed this issue, and lutzer has as well (see No Place to Cry: The Hurt and Healing of Sexual Abuse), but this issue has not been regularly focused on in our pulpits, nor has it been the focus of a holy crusade.
i don't think that dobson or lutzer's responses to this issue are completely amiss, but i do think that they are making a mistake by failing to respond to the internal sins of the church in as strident a manner as they do the sins of those outside.
anyway...i should probably offer a bit of a disclaimer at this point. over the past year and a half one of my closest Christian friends has been rejecting the faith in order to embrace the lifestyle. so, most of my angst over this issue is rooted in my attempts to love and minister to this friend. please leave that grain of salt on your tongue as you consider my reflections.
erin,
i pretty much agree with what you said. i think our government's interest is a bit more complicated than that, but i really don't want to dive into that element of this issue at present.
i would also like to thank both of you for taking the time to dialog with me. i've found your responses quite helpful.
yeah, plus you don't want to get gentry started on politics. ha! just kidding. This is actually the only area that I didn't chat with you very much, only because I don't care much about it.
I am really conflicted about this, cause in my graduating class in High School I had two gay friends and three bi-sexuals. They were just normal people. But every inch of me cannot accept gay marriage. Not that I can't like homosexuals, I cannot swallow the consept of gay marriage. But it is just like every other sexual sin. People that co-habitate are in the same boat. I can like and love these people and disapprove of co-habitation. But just cause you slap the word "marriage" on a sexual sin does not make it right.
And as for the spouse abuse. I agree the Christian world needs to bring the missed issues to light, but I think a big reason why it doesn't get as much press in the christian media, is cause right now the gay marriage is just getting more press. If Wife beaters formed a club and wanted to be nationally approved and recognized, I'm sure Jimmy and the Focus would be all over that.
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